
Following proof that there is nothing left for me in SL, both from an earlier discussion and a recent event, I’ve decided to go out entirely. See comments on that post that were added while I was typing.
I’ve cancelled my account. AjaxLife development will stop, and the public service will be terminated.
You may be happy, Mercury, that I won’t send you a third IM (oh, the horror!) about the sim you took from me. You may be happy, majority of TSL (especially Shawn, Daisy Brennen and Dontay Brennen (the “FUCK YOU KATHERINE BERRY” person)), that I won’t be around to do whatever it is I do to make you dislike me so much.
And Daisy, I don’t moderate comments, unless they’re spam.
EDIT: I’ve also pulled down the donation button (there’s nothing left to donate for, so…).
EDIT 2: Found who had named me in their profile, and added links to their web profiles.
Finally! You love to bend the truth, don’t you? Especially to make it look like you;re innocent? What about the IM where you threatened Mercury to KILL him? Don’t tell only a little part of the story, tell the whole story.
You threaten to kill because of terraforming…
[15:41] *** parent estate: 5, teen
[15:41] Katharine Berry: Just so we’re clear, if this is how the sim’s going to be, I’d rather have demolished it.
[15:41] Mercury Metropolitan: Uh… I’m still playing around with terrain.
[15:42] Katharine Berry had assumed it wasn’t going to be dramatically changed into some bizarre snowy bowl.
[15:43] Katharine Berry as such feels that she has been tricked into giving you this sim.
[15:45] Mercury Metropolitan: Once again, I haven’t decided to keep it this way.. I’m simplay playing around with different terrain layouts. I never said I was going to keep the same layout that you had previously.
[15:45] Mercury Metropolitan: simply*
[15:46] Katharine Berry wishes to murder you. Unfortunately, she doesn’t know where you live to do so.
Oopsy, should I go and report Mercury for pasting chat logs too?
Dear, dear, this gets more interesting every minute, doesn’t it?
(P.S. That is known as “anger.” It is a true point, from about three weeks ago.)
Remember, third party websites. Linden Lab can’t enforce anything on which. Read the Terms of Service before you pretend you know everything.
Oh dear. Katharine, quitting is just the type of thing that these people like to see. All you’re doing is feeding their ego. Don’t let people have that much power over you. I don’t know all the details of the situation, but I do know that you shouldn’t stood to others’ pettiness. Go above them and continue doing what you do best. I think AjaxLife is a MAJOR accomplishment for someone so young. Don’t let that talent go to waste just because of a few bad eggs!
Just for the record, since Akismet has picked up on Shawn’s flaming, and I am not in the mood to tell it otherwise:
Katharine, I think you’re over-reacting a bit. You’re probably right (I don’t know any of the details, obviously), but you’re still over-reacting. Mercury received your sim, and is, as you see it, not sticking to your agreement. That sucks. I’m sorry. Don’t let yourself be torn apart over it. Just relax and let things happen. Hopefully they’ll turn out for the better. Maybe Mercury will decide to do what you wanted after all. Or maybe he won’t. I don’t know. Whatever happens, just relax and deal with it. If you really want to leave, so be it. Goodbye, and have fun. But take the time to think first.
I’d really like to believe that. Except he has less than a week to do so, and his promises cannot be maintained in that time period. He admitted to not sticking to it, and unlike his friends didn’t bother to go on and insult me (any further than banning me, muting me, and being somewhat rude) for asking.
And I wouldn’t object as much were it not for the variety of insults I received for daring to ask a question.
Nooooooooo! Kathy!
Don’t leave! While I may sound selfish, AjaxLife is the only thing keeping the Teen Grid “alive” to all people… Without it, we’re as good as deleted and banned for Linden Lab’s good. We’re the tiniest community in the Second Life universe, and if Linden Lab won’t be getting tons of press reaction for stopping TSL, they would have done it a long time ago…
Plus, there are still some people that like you, not everyone hates you! I don’t, even after the whole deal about “Here, you’re not on the friends list anymore so you couldn’t bug me”, and the fact I acted entirely stupid. And, if you haven’t noticed, you’re also keeping Linden Lab alive as well. AjaxLife isn’t run by anyone but you, and its the first pride for Linden Lab regarding that huge feature they neglected: web applications connected to Second Life.
Please, reconsider this! And about your simulator, I know I may act stupid for not checking this, but check the support portal — maybe something there could help you reverse this
.
P.S.: *Hits Shawn and Mercury on the head 1,000,000,000,000 times with a virtual spikey club until nothing but body parts remain*
*removes Shawn from buddy list*
Sorry for double posting, but I forgot this:
@Shawn: Didn’t you ever hear of anger? It’s a common feeling that us humans use regularly
. Need a demo? Go to any school, wait for someone to curse someone else and enjoy the show
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Linden Lab really don’t need me. Furthermore, they’d always get bad press for closing down the TG – mostly due to complaints about teens on the MG. They all know we exist – it’s a convenient excuse!
The TG won’t be forgotten – just hidden away for months at a time, then someone will announce something and people will get all excited about it.
Mercury technically has every right to keep my sim – it’s in his name, after all. That he didn’t pay me for it is besides the point; LL don’t care (nor should they, really).
I’m really not important at all, either to LL (I’m a waste of resources!) or the TG (I’m a… no idea. Ask someone else.)
As it stands, I have nothing left to return to, and thus no reason to reconsider. Perhaps when the famed all-ages area that’s been talked about for months appears, or maybe when I’m 18.
It’s tempting to go and post in the forum threads though. The amount of inaccurate information being given out in attempts to help is annoying. (Not that my information is always accurate, but I do know some things there to be false – given by people I’d really expect to know about such things.)
@Kathy: Go, you got nothing to lose
. About the TG hidden thingy, i’m tempting to go ahead and register an illegal account on the main grid. Seriously, our grid is technically dead, and I don’t care about M-rated parcels, I hate Second Life used as a porn medium to some people. Some
groupcompany went and made Red Light Center (Wikipedia article link), a virtual world dedicated to sex. So, Linden, banish the bad M-rated stuff from the Main Grid and merge the two! It’s not like they get tons of money from people buying L$ for that stuff.Dear Katharine,
we have never met, our worlds lying far apart as I have come to realize, but I would like you to believe that your achievement with AjaxLife (alas the only of sample of your skill I had an opportunity to profit from) outshines what most of us will ever be able to achieve — whatever our age (how the eternal « for someone your age » must hurt ; why can’t they just shut the f*** up ?). At 32, I bow to you. And I sympathize. I’m not old enough to get away from the fact how unjust and arbitrary people can be, not jaded enough to not understand your anger and not feel sympathy for the rejection you feel.
It is easy to tell you not to give in to it, but that is just insinuating that we, your elders, know better. I will not do that, because we don’t, even if we don’t like to admit it. So all I will tell you is that you and your stupendous mind will be missed by many people you do not even know, because you made our world a bit richer and no one can afford to lose somebody like you.
So long, Katharine Berry. If the grids ever merge, I hope to meet you there.
Nice speech. Katharine has had plenty of accolades for her programming ability which I’m sure is outstanding. It doesn’t change the fact that she is slandering my friend by insinuating that he “stole” a sim from her. Smiley and Interfect – Mercury did nothing wrong and whatever insults Katherine *thinks* she has had to endure pale in comparison to what she has said and is now saying about Mercury. I personally dont care if she quits or not. I just want her to leave my friend alone
How to miss the point. In one short, sweet lesson.
First of all, Katharine, I’d like you to know that I hold no animosity toward you. I believe that you’ve done great things in Second Life and will continue to achieve even greater things in the future. However, with that being said, I feel the need to defend myself here, since you’ve chosen to approach this in a very public manner and insinuate that I “stole” your sim. I’m going to try to make this as clear and clean-cut as possible for those who don’t have access to all facts. Before making any assumptions or adding your 2 cents, I strongly suggest reading this in its entirety.
On 10/28/07, Katharine Berry posted the following thread in the Classifieds section of the official Second Life forums:
On, 10/29/07, I posted the following in the same thread:
Now, Katharine refers to a condition in her blog post that my “vague outline” of a plan was supposed to be executed. This simply isn’t true, as you can easily tell by reading her forum post. There was no condition set in that post, nor was there ever any verbal, written, or otherwise binding agreement between us that my said plan was to be executed. Also, after reading my forum post, you should note that I never set any artificial timetable for completion of such a project. To do so was not a set requirement by Katharine, nor would it be very honest on my part given the fact that people would be building voluntarily. If Katharine did in fact ever approach me personally to ask or agree to a timetable or promise of completion, I would have given her an honest no answer. This was never the case. Katharine never asked me to agree to any terms before transferring the island to me.
On 10/31/07, Katharine posted the following in that same forum thread:
On the 31st, I paid Katharine the 29k to cover the transfer fee and we both filed support tickets to initiate the island transfer. The island was officially transferred to me on 11/7/07. The same day that it was transferred, I started to play around with the terraforming of the island. During my experimentation with the terraforming tools and different raw files, Katharine sent me what seemed to be a disgruntled IM. Just because she didn’t like the current look at the sim, she stated that she felt tricked into giving it to me? Just to reiterate, this is after the fact – it was already transferred and I had never agreed to a particular terraforming layout.
[15:41] Katharine Berry: Just so we’re clear, if this is how the sim’s going to be, I’d rather have demolished it.
[15:41] Mercury Metropolitan: Uh… I’m still playing around with terrain.
[15:42] Katharine Berry had assumed it wasn’t going to be dramatically changed into some bizarre snowy bowl.
[15:43] Katharine Berry as such feels that she has been tricked into giving you this sim.
[15:45] Mercury Metropolitan: Once again, I haven’t decided to keep it this way.. I’m simplay playing around with different terrain layouts. I never said I was going to keep the same layout that you had previously.
[15:45] Mercury Metropolitan: simply*
[15:46] Katharine Berry wishes to murder you. Unfortunately, she doesn’t know where you live to do so.
A few days after it was transferred, I received another very bitter IM from Katharine, this time blaming me as the cause of her friends hating her. Apparently, the other person (Churchill Tweak) who was in the running for the island had the same name choice in mind for the island. This person chose to blame her for the name choice, which wasn’t the most appropriate thing to do, or so I thought at the time. He should have taken that up with me, and why he IMed Katharine was a bit of a mystery to me. However, I did personally approach the person after this conversation with Katharine and questioned them. Why had he vented to her instead of me? He stated to me that Katharine had known about his name choice prior to my name choice. Both of which happened to be the same. On the day that we filed our support tickets, I chose the name Aura. Katharine even asked me what I wanted to rename the sim on that day and I told her. Apparently, from Churchill’s statement, Katharine had already known what his name choice was and never did question me about naming it the same name. When I asked Churchill why she would do that, his response was to spite him purposely.
In the following chat, Katharine also contradicts herself by saying she was forced into giving me the sim though general consensus, which was obviously not the case based on her forum post about me winning. It was simply based on random luck.
[10:50] Katharine Berry: Thank you for making friends of mine decide to hate me. Also thank you for taking my sim and promptly setting it to a group I have no relation to, and not bothering to invite me. I should never have given you the thing.
[10:52] Katharine Berry: And, for that matter, refusing to talk to me after giving it to you, and only having done so for a week or so prior.
[10:52] Mercury Metropolitan: How did I make friends of yours decide you hate you? I have no control over that.. The group was set so that the persons building could create Linden plants.
[10:52] Katharine Berry: Actually, you do.
[10:53] Katharine Berry: [2007/11/09 10:32] Churchill Tweak: (Saved Fri Nov 9 16:25:06 2007) Wtf.. Your sim got renamed Aura.. Thats was the name We choice.. Why did you name it that!? I you knew we were not getting YOUR sim why steal teh same so we can’t use it!
[10:53] Katharine Berry: [2007/11/09 10:32] Churchill Tweak: (Saved Fri Nov 9 16:25:11 2007) Thanks a fucking bunch..
[10:53] Katharine Berry: Your behaviour thus far is roughly in line with a con.
[10:53] Mercury Metropolitan: How was I supposed to know that’s the name they had in mind?
[10:53] Mercury Metropolitan: I’m not psychic, Katharine.
[10:53] Mercury Metropolitan: No one ever expressed that to me.
[10:54] Katharine Berry: This does not answer rarely/never having spoken to me previously until the week up to me deciding what to do, and refusing to do so afterwards.
[10:55] Katharine Berry: I never felt you deserved it in the first place, but was forced into it by general consensus.
[10:55] Mercury Metropolitan: Well, the last time I spoke to you, you seemed angry at me.. And for what reason, I don’t know. Simply because I was messing around with the terraforming?
[10:56] Katharine Berry: Yes. You also didn’t even bother to say “Thank you” or similar.
[10:56] Mercury Metropolitan: Also, I find it extremely convenient of Churchill to IM you directly and express that to you… Seems a little strange to me that I just happened to choose the same name that he was thinking to rename the sim. Why wouldn’t he have contacted me directly instead? Doesn’t make sense.
[10:57] Katharine Berry: You go ask him if he said it then.
[10:57] Katharine Berry: Instead of accusing me of lying.
[10:57] Mercury Metropolitan: I’m not questioning you..
[10:57] Katharine Berry: I’m leaving now. Goodbye.
[10:57] Mercury Metropolitan: I’m questioning him
[11:00] Mercury Metropolitan: And I have said thank you.. As soon as you decided to choose me. Katharine, I’m going to be honest here. I always feel I have to tread lightly when speaking to you because I don’t know how you will react to certain things. I don’t want to express to much emotion because I’m afraid that if I do, you will take it the wrong way.
[11:00] Second Life: User not online – message will be stored and delivered later.
Today, Katharine IMed me and bluntly stated that I’ve failed to do “anything” I said I’d do with the sim and was requesting to have it transferred back. However, I refuse to do so. Those who know me are aware of how much I’ve tried to encourage and motivate builders to complete things in time. However, none of those builders have completed builds due to real life and assorted priorities. In that sense, yes, my idea has failed, but not because I didn’t try. So, I’m very sorry if you feel that way, Katharine. Perhaps I’ll have better luck when I transfer to the MG.
Formatting edited by Katharine – all content remains unchanged. Blockquotes were added around block quotes for easier reading.
As an addendum, I was never aware of Churchill’s choice of name. Furthermore, even if I was, I wasn’t told Mercury’s until after the ticket was submitted.
And where did you get the idea that it’s acceptable to say “I would do…”, followed by not doing it on the basis there was never any contract to do so?
And yes, you have failed to do anything. The sim is empty, save for a flag, building in one corner, and something marked “Ye Olde Bait” or something to that effect – all built by Caboose Enfield (yay Caboose.)
(Side note: the flip was technically invalid – the first two attempts (five flips each) brought up up Churchill. I flipped a few (hundred) more times and came up with Mercury, since I felt I had little choice. Yes, I lied. Sue me. The coin flipping was a largely failed attempt to justify this choice to myself.)
Furthermore, I fail to see what relation builders and opening the sim have. I also fail to see how having your friends harass me (and also insult anyone who comments in support of me, although the spam filters are catching all of those now anyway) and banning me is helpful in any way.
I love you both with all of my heart, Katharine and Mercury, but, for what my opinion matters (and risking to be immediately dismissed, anyway, as it generally happens in these cases), I think you both should talk (without leaving because you don’t agree with the other) before you continue posting stuff like this. It’d be a shame if you two found out there was a misunderstanding when people all over the blogosphere are giving uninformed opinions (like mine, because only you two know what’s going on, or at least should).
I know that this comment is most probably going to put me on someone’s red list, but I couldn’t go to sleep tonight if I didn’t post it. Fairness is not determined by personal emotions.
Noooooooooo~~~!!! I just started using this yesterday after work blocked the ports needed by SL… it was my only way in… and now it’s gone~~~~ *breaks down into tears*
From one Kat to another… don’t let them get you down girl. Chin up and continue in your work. You’re smart, you can do wonderous things… don’t let others stop you.
*Sighs at comments like some of the ones above.*
Okay, I’m not going to get involved in this anymore. Attacking is not good, playing the victim isn’t either, and supporting people as they take those roles is about the same. Good luck in your world of accusations, everyone.
I said it before and will again – it makes me sad and mad that someone of your talent should be made to feel this way. Don’t hold against the world – maybe we will see you again on the main grid when the time is right.
I wish you the very best.
I would just like to inform you that I was encouraged by Mercury Metropolitan to build on the island of Aura on multiple occasions. He asked me to build, I attempted, and decided that I could not complete it in a timely fashion.
Well.
A plan should be followed through with, and groups of people attacking each other is a problem. But I don’t want to take sides.
Now, as for where people are headed, the TG died in march. Who cares? I don’t. I log on because I like to TALK TO PEOPLE. Not to complain about the economy, make money, or build stuff.
Now, as for chat logs, don’t re-post them. Why? Well, here’s how I see that going.
We can’t post (negative) chatlogs on the forums, because no one can accuse anyone on LL’s grounds.
But, this is Kath’s website. Not the forums.
Still, you’re holding what someone said to the exact and total truth. If we did that, problems would arise.
It’s uncool, but not enforciable to post chatlogs. (not forum posts, because anyone can still look at those.)
It’s called he/she said.
I’d like to point out a few things.
1. Mercury never made any public postings after he got the sim asking for builders.
2. Mercury closed the sim, therefore no builders were able to look around and see if they could build.
3. It was at first a joke between me and some friends at school (whom play SL) that Mercury’s post really should be read as “I’ll let a few of my friends on to the sim to build, I don’t rightly care about other people who want to build.” “After which I will move to the MG and whipe the sim clean of all that crapy TG stuff, and start making money from the MG.”
4. I’m a bit happy I never got the sim since I’d be paying a load of money to help a grid full of people who don’t give a flying fuck about how much time it takes to help them.
5. You guys keep telling her to stop being a drama queen, well just so you know, it’s not exactly fun to be lied to. I’ve stopped trying to be nice to people for a load of reasons.
i)I used to give some of the stuff I made for free to my friends. What did some of them do, tried to find ways to take the scripts out and sell them.
ii) I used to make some nice builds for a group which I will not name. I never got any thanks, and insted people just whined about the builds. They seem to forget that I worked on those builds WITHOUT pay.
More to come, it’s 2:04 am and I really need to get to bed so I don’t fall asleep in science and/or math.
Katharine,
My forum post was a response to your call for a “vague outline of what you intend to do with it.” My reply was never a binding contract or term of sale that you highlighted anywhere. There was NO agreement. I simply won the sim and followed through with the vision/outline you asked for initially. To be honest, I really didn’t even have to attempt to honor my vision after the transfer, but I did indeed do so because it was something I genuinely thought could be achieved and wanted to achieve. Otherwise, I wouldn’t have posted that outline in the first place.
Do you really think I am not disappointed by the incompletion of this project and molasses-like pace of the builders? Some of which never even had the chance to begin building because of real life and other priorities? I hounded people down and tried my best to motivate them to build. You can ask them yourself, don’t take my word for it. Brooke was one of those people who I chose to build and he has already commented here.
On the subject of opening up the sim – It was made very obvious that I wanted to open up the sim after building was complete. However, building was not completed, so I will not be opening up the sim.
Jefferson,
If you did indeed take the time to read my forum post, you would have noticed in the first line that I specifically stated “close friends” in terms of builders. Very clearly, in the second sentence, I stated “Immediately thereafter, I would open it up to the public for all to share.” However, nothing was built, right? Therefore, the sim was not opened to the public. Please do point out where I said I was going to reach out to the public in search of builders. Sorry if these are things that you missed, assumed, or hoped for even after reading my post. I feel that it was very clear and concise.
awwww well it feels so
but you can enter some other worlds with no lag people who are much kinder and decent graphics. S/l does have a tendency to bring out the worst and your work here should be celebrated. Peopel develop lots of skills in making building and liguistically terrorising others, but iot would be good if the lindens had thouyght more about conflict resolution and peace making. Thanks and take care
)) I will so miss Ajax that if I dont leave s/l along with the many others who exit this dodgy sellin scheme.
Hi Katharine,
I was used to use your ajaxlife website to let me use SL even when I can’t do it to chat with people I love on sl and rl.
We made a great work…and you made happy for sure a lot of people all around the world. So I’m very sorry about what is happened to let you decide to give up the service. I don0t know what is happened, the only thing I can say is: A BIG THANK YOU !!!
And I pray you to not remove the service…despite of all what is happening. Don’t care of whoever and give all of us the result of your precious work. Again THANK YOU
Lads & gents: I use computers since 1979. I teached computer science between 1983 and 1992. I developed Virtual Reality stuff between 1992 and 1998. I developed games between 1998 and 2002. Now I develop eyetracking stuff. RARELY I have seen such some ingenious stuff like AjaxLife. So, please, you both give up, get a beer, eat some pizza, clear out everything, pat your shoulders and go on. You are too young people for such a mistake. Read Levy’s “Hackers” book and everything will be clear.
With all my respect,
Babele Dunnit
Hi guys,
I think Ajaxlife will be in the future one of the most useful applications and perhaps some company is looking at it for business… please katharine don’t give up! this is your future if you want we can build a user group with all the user requirements for your developing so u can grow up in this field..
Don’t give up it will be ur future
Tnx from Europe
Mercury, since you failed, it’d be nice if you’d have the decency to admit it and let someone else on this grid have a shot at doing something – and getting it right this time.
That you seem to think you can say you’ll do something, but don’t actually need to do it without a formal contract is rediculous. Whatever happened to trust and the value of someone’s word?
Daisy and Shawn may think you deserve a free sim. I don’t, since your moral values are seemingly nonexistent. I’m also awaiting their reasons for not giving you the sim you supposedly deserve themselves. Clearly you don’t deserve it enough for them to actually pay.
Ding Dong. The witch is dead.
Im kidding.
Sad to have such a great asset leave, but there we go.
In the end the teen grid is a nasty little hole full of shite with some nice bits in.
Sorry I never finished your graphics
Why yes Katharine, if I develop a disdain for Linden Lab, Second Life and people generally, and no longer feel able to afford my sim (see your blog post of October 29) I will indeed transfer it to one of my friends. Probably wont be Mercury though since he already has a sim of his own.
Mercury,
Now if it was me I would have tought the following.
“Hm none of my friends want to build, so maybe I should see if other people want to.”
If you’re looking to friends for support and their doing shit all it may help a bit if you asked around.
What I wonder is why didn’t you make a forum post like this.
“None of my friends are willing to build, so would anyone like to help.”
You also have to remember that just having close friends build it and then showing it off on the MG is kind of a bias. Close friends may be well good friends but there not always great people to rely on for building, science projects etc, etc. Just because they’re a friend doesn’t mean they’re the best.
Dear Katharine,
It is sad that you are leaving Second Life. It was good knowing you in Schome Park – Schome’s private island – and I would like to remind you that you are welcome to join us there any time if you wish.
You should regard your willpower to quit as a GOOD thing, not a BAD thing like all these clowns are saying, and I respect you for doing so, it sounds like quite a few will miss your presence there.
I hope you can find a way of keeping ajax life alive.
Remember that quitting something like this is the easy bit, sustaining it until you no longer need it is the hard part.
- Faz
Sorry to see you leave, Katharine you were one of the best scripters I’ve seen to date..
Then again, Everyone is leaving..
Switch, You, Steven….
I forgot, Could you allow someone else to maintain Ajaxlife, And your various other projects? (Statistics, etc..)
* Hostile towards Shawn, Daisy, and Mercury *
Katharine,
I only knew you for a short period of time, however in that time i enjoyed our conversations, and i would like to let you know that i was deeply honored to have known you.
I am in the process of reading through all this /\, and i hope that eventually everyone will settle their differences/feelings of anger to some degree.
Farewell Avatar Formerly Known as Katharine Berry, you will be very much missed by both myself and the entire community.
Chilko Tardis
Hi Katharine,
I never got to try Ajaxlife. I have been looking for something to use when we are on the road.
Sorry to hear that you have given up on Sl and Ajaxlife.
I wish you all the best
Garth FairChang
The reason people dont like TG anymore is because of the drama that occurs like the drama above. The price was set, sold, and the seller wasn’t happy with what the buyer did with the island. This seems very clear cut and should not merit such senseless drama.
In retrosect, Katherine, You made a offer to people and someone eventually took it and bought the island. Thats it, mission accomplished. The island is sold and is out of your control. You can have your wishes with what to do with the island and ask the owner to heed your wishes but they are not set in stone.
Instead of going on a pity trip, you should turn ajaxlife back on and continue your work. I suggest you mute those individuals and explain to your friends what really happaned and try to see what their take on it is. If they can’t really accept anything you say then that just tells you they aren’t real friends.
From personal experience since the day I began a long time ago. Mute the drama queens/kings and full throttle ahead of the rest.
Meet you in MG in ??? years.
;P
“eventually” is the wrong word – there were two offers in under five minutes (not posted in that thread), and a good number afterwards. I made no money on the “sale”, and they were given it essentially for free. Were this not the case, I wouldn’t complain – but as they took a free sim, stating a plan for their use of it, they should really do what they said they would.
Besides, it’d cost me $9.95 to reactivate my account, and persuading LL to take my money is easier said than done, for some reason. >.>
And I’m nearing 16, so see you on the MG in two years, one month and one day. Except I doubt there’ll be anyone around to move me on December 26th, 2009.
/me sighs
I’ve been poking the code.google.com but for some reason can’t get to the code. For some reason it says my client is forbidden to access it or something. I tried looking at the source code myself, and having a look at this Ajax stuff… but it all looks like mess to me… I can do standard LL code… but that stuff’s beyond me for now.
Katherine, I’m sorry this happened to you. It’s one of the reasons I keep my guard up in world. Too many people out there willing to use and abuse.
That’d be because my code’s messy.
As for the code, doesn’t http://ajaxlife.googlecode.com/svn/ work?
Thank you thank you thank you thank you!!!! *gives you a big hug* Here’s to hoping my code-challenged head can wrap around it and get it working.
Katharine –
I got to try the client one time before it went away, and I was very excited about it! You did a great thing, and I hope that someone picks it up & runs with it.
I’m sorry to say that so much of the above is really sad to see. This kind of stuff shouldn’t be aired in public – it only serves to make you all look rather childish. I’d suggest that if it can be deleted then maybe it should be, for your own sake – this is kind of stuff that can come back to haunt you later.
FWIW, I sympathize with your disappointment. I sold my last plot in SL to a guy who said he wanted to keep a garden space on it – I’d worked really hard, acquiring several neighboring plots, creating a stream, etc. & built a nice garden space. Of course, he didn’t do it – and I was disappointed, but what could I say? He was free to do with it as he wished, and that’s the way it goes. So – mental note about doing business with that person, and I move on.
Bottom line – don’t let this b.s. ruin your REAL life, and don’t let people cheapen you by pointlessly bickering with them over stuff that amounts to little or nothing at the end of the day.
Katharine,
Ive never been mad at you. Though maybe you dont think of me as a friend. I never meant to make you feel obligated to sell to ANYONE! I just wanted to be your friend and help you out by pointing out i liked Mercury’s idea.
Hell, if i had the money i would have bought the thing from you and still let you do anything you wanted from it. But im lazy and kinda a druggy. So i have little to no money.
IAM NOT CHOOSING SIDES ON THIS FIGHT.
But i want to say that you were one of my best friends on SL for a very long stretch of the time i have spent here. Maybe you hate me now and dont want to hear from me. And thats fine. But dont forget, i have always loved you as a great friend, mentor, SL’er.
Your friend,
Caboose Enfield
By The Way,
Katharine the sim actually isnt empty after Lil Mill and i have taken it upon ourselves to build u[p and fill it with all sorts of things. From A pirate ship (bought and placed there from Igneous Enoch) to a fishing spot. A pub called the bulls head. A temple with a cross teleporter to a fictional heaven.
We even went as far as adding a little mission to find all of the Discovery points and all of the Vandalism points (Lil’s idea) There are almost 30 in all.
I think you would like the sim as it is now.
Great. Of course, that’s part of my original complaint solved. Now there’s just his failure to open the thing to the public, banning me, having his friends harass me, and reporting me on trivial technicalities (and doing so hypocritically, at that). And then claiming to have nothing against me. Right.
And Mercury’s forgetting that items you don’t own do NOT move with the sim.
Who cares. Real life is about making money and not about contributing to communities. In the end Mercury has his own SIM in the main grid for which he paid nearly nothing. He doesn’t seem to literally have broken any agreements – good job Mercury. Anyway, I feel his acting is pretty selfish, tasteless and maybe unfair.
Honestly I regret to see you quit Katherine, and even though we never met I want you to know I think you did a wonderful job. I wish you luck.
Mercury Said something like “It’s only open to mah friends!” >.>
Also I have his picture from some conference on Flickr (If you really want to “[15:46] Katharine Berry wishes to murder you. Unfortunately, she doesn’t”..
Are you answering emails still?
Mercury = Epik Phail X 3.14 ^ * ?/1
I answer emails when I’m not too exhausted and/or depressed to do so.
Also, it’s really cold for some reason. I think the heating’s off.
Dear Katahrine,
little as it might help when you drop into that ugly black well called depression, I still would like to invite you to look around you, at the comments that have followed your announcements. There are far more people respecting and admiring you out there than there are bullies snapping at your heels. What you have achieved, your brilliant mind impresses people far more talented and seasoned to life’s vagaries than those petty barkers spraying their spittle all over your blog. Don’t let a vocal minority tell you what you are worth, or where you belong.
Hugs (in-world one day, too, if you care for them).
Wow, I never knew all this happened since I left TG in June. I’m not taking sides, because I think both you Katharine and you Mercury are decent, intelligent people. You both are very creative… AjaxLife looked amazing. I would have loved to use it. As for the sim, Aura (Or whatever it should be called..) I don’t think you made the agreement very descriptive, and it sounded like, from your forum post originally that you had little or no interest in the outcome of the buyer.
I have sold my own work to people for resale, and I have been ripped off by accepting a buyer’s offer. Iv been lied to, and my wishes have been violated in turn for someone else’s benefit. But I ACCEPT it for what it is, and that I no longer have any control over it.
Mercury explains directly what he intended to do, and that he would close the sim, find builders, then reopen it to the public. As for terra forming, I don’t think you should have exclaimed you would kill someone. Mercury was not intending to offend you. You never said anything about terra-forming or appearance of the sim.
Your own dreams and visions will differ from someone else. I think you should either accept it, or you can ignore Mercury. Even though this is Marjory irrelevant, since he is now on the MG, this entire argument is blown way out of proportion.
I had said I’m not taking sides in all this, but I’m trying to give you advice from my own experience. I guess this comment is a little out of date, and that I am re-igniting an old conflict, but iv gotten into similar arguments with people. I’m a very irritable person though, and if something doesn’t go the way I want, I tend to get very angry. I have tried to apologize to all the people I have offended through my words and intentions.
With best regards to the both of you; <3
Will Szymborska (Former owner of WillMart)
Katherine, Mercury, I won’t take a side since as with many internet stories it’s very hard to tell what is true, what is false and what is just plain misunderstanding. To Mercury, I say: if you said you would do something if you obtained that sim, do it, you should try your best to keep your word.
To Katherine: please don’t quit for such a bitter episode. Bad things like that happen both in life and Second Life, and whether you’ve been tricked or not, you still managed to achieve something very few of all the people bitching here could ever dream of. You’ve assembled the very first SL web interface, you’ve been cited in an article of New World Notes… not many managed to do that. So don’t get discouraged by this bad story, and keep doing this great project that I’m sure has the potential to spark more and more interest as it grows: you have much to gain and little to lose by doing what you love, developing your pet project.