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	<title>Comments on: Schome Park again &#8211; a somewhat belated note</title>
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		<title>By: DaisyLou</title>
		<link>http://kathar.in/2007/07/schome-park-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1396</link>
		<dc:creator>DaisyLou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about that Katharine, I seemed to get a little carried away there, and I just wanted to say you are a great scripter (well, coming from me that isn&#039;t much, given my scripting abilities)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about that Katharine, I seemed to get a little carried away there, and I just wanted to say you are a great scripter (well, coming from me that isn&#8217;t much, given my scripting abilities)</p>
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		<title>By: PeterT</title>
		<link>http://kathar.in/2007/07/schome-park-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1360</link>
		<dc:creator>PeterT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry if this is in the wrong place - but this discussion doesn&#039;t seem to be moving us forward very constructively and it would be great if we could turn it around ...

Problem solving ...
Katharine - if you are now back from your trip to LL then I will email you personally to see if we can resolve the issues that led you to want to leave Schome Park - cos as I said elsewhere, anyone leaving the Schome community for negative reasons feels like a failure to me.

I sincerely believe that any problem can be resolved if people can:
a) agree that there is a problem
b) agree what the problem(s) is/are 
c) recognise other people&#039;s perspectives and concerns (which may well be different to their own)
d) genuinely work together to try to solve the problem(s) 

Where things go wrong is where we focus on the people or personalities involved rather than on the problem itself. 

Publicity ...
The issue of publicity is a red herring IMHO - the thread that kicked this all off was one that I started in the forum in which I suggested that it might be a good idea if we explored the possibility of folk in Schome Park developing scripts for folk on the Main Grid - the stimulus for this was a scrip that someone developed that I thought lots of folk on the Main Grid would find useful - and a desire to provide a focus for scripting talent within the community which met real needs of other people in the wider world. The element of publicity would have been a welcome side effect - but certainly not a driving motivation. Authentic contexts for engaging in real purposeful activity which might enhance learning and collaboration was the key driver. As I am sure everyone would agree there was a need to up the level of focussed educational activities on Schome Park towards the end of the summer recess!

Censorship ...
On the issue of censorship - the guidance that I give to moderators of the wiki and forum is to take action in relation to messages/content that are in breach of the Acceptable Use Policy (AUP). The AUP, which you can read at http://schome.open.ac.uk/wikiworks/index.php/Schome_Park_Acceptable_Use_Policy, does not say anything about criticism not being allowed - indeed one of the things we actively encourage people to do in the schome community is to constructively criticise things and behaviours. We do discourage folk from criticising people - though again I would prefer us to respond to this by explaining why it is inappropriate and ineffective, and by modelling alternative and more productive ways of making criticisms rather than by deleting material. Now I cannot claim that we don&#039;t sometime overstep the mark and/or are not sometimes a little too paranoid when it comes to child protection - we all make mistakes. I think that making mistakes is unavoidable, and is a good thing so long as you learn from them ... 
(Ok so I know that we haven&#039;t learnt not to be paranoid about child protection - I guess the consequences of something going wrong on that front are too serious to ignore).

Blimey - I have rabbited on a bit haven&#039;t I. I&#039;ll be in touch with you via email K. - very much hope we can move forward positively together to sort out this mess.

PeterT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry if this is in the wrong place &#8211; but this discussion doesn&#8217;t seem to be moving us forward very constructively and it would be great if we could turn it around &#8230;</p>
<p>Problem solving &#8230;<br />
Katharine &#8211; if you are now back from your trip to LL then I will email you personally to see if we can resolve the issues that led you to want to leave Schome Park &#8211; cos as I said elsewhere, anyone leaving the Schome community for negative reasons feels like a failure to me.</p>
<p>I sincerely believe that any problem can be resolved if people can:<br />
a) agree that there is a problem<br />
b) agree what the problem(s) is/are<br />
c) recognise other people&#8217;s perspectives and concerns (which may well be different to their own)<br />
d) genuinely work together to try to solve the problem(s) </p>
<p>Where things go wrong is where we focus on the people or personalities involved rather than on the problem itself. </p>
<p>Publicity &#8230;<br />
The issue of publicity is a red herring IMHO &#8211; the thread that kicked this all off was one that I started in the forum in which I suggested that it might be a good idea if we explored the possibility of folk in Schome Park developing scripts for folk on the Main Grid &#8211; the stimulus for this was a scrip that someone developed that I thought lots of folk on the Main Grid would find useful &#8211; and a desire to provide a focus for scripting talent within the community which met real needs of other people in the wider world. The element of publicity would have been a welcome side effect &#8211; but certainly not a driving motivation. Authentic contexts for engaging in real purposeful activity which might enhance learning and collaboration was the key driver. As I am sure everyone would agree there was a need to up the level of focussed educational activities on Schome Park towards the end of the summer recess!</p>
<p>Censorship &#8230;<br />
On the issue of censorship &#8211; the guidance that I give to moderators of the wiki and forum is to take action in relation to messages/content that are in breach of the Acceptable Use Policy (AUP). The AUP, which you can read at <a href="http://schome.open.ac.uk/wikiworks/index.php/Schome_Park_Acceptable_Use_Policy" rel="nofollow">http://schome.open.ac.uk/wikiworks/index.php/Schome_Park_Acceptable_Use_Policy</a>, does not say anything about criticism not being allowed &#8211; indeed one of the things we actively encourage people to do in the schome community is to constructively criticise things and behaviours. We do discourage folk from criticising people &#8211; though again I would prefer us to respond to this by explaining why it is inappropriate and ineffective, and by modelling alternative and more productive ways of making criticisms rather than by deleting material. Now I cannot claim that we don&#8217;t sometime overstep the mark and/or are not sometimes a little too paranoid when it comes to child protection &#8211; we all make mistakes. I think that making mistakes is unavoidable, and is a good thing so long as you learn from them &#8230;<br />
(Ok so I know that we haven&#8217;t learnt not to be paranoid about child protection &#8211; I guess the consequences of something going wrong on that front are too serious to ignore).</p>
<p>Blimey &#8211; I have rabbited on a bit haven&#8217;t I. I&#8217;ll be in touch with you via email K. &#8211; very much hope we can move forward positively together to sort out this mess.</p>
<p>PeterT</p>
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		<title>By: Katharine Berry</title>
		<link>http://kathar.in/2007/07/schome-park-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1359</link>
		<dc:creator>Katharine Berry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may &quot;actually need&quot; publicity. I have no objection to that. I object when publicity is a primary consideration over anything else.

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;DaisyLou&quot;&gt;We might find it necessary to censor things as they may be breaking the AUP and could create negative publicity if they were left on view.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Congratulations for actually &lt;i&gt;admitting&lt;/i&gt; that you censor criticism. Removing negative statements will simply hide the bad publicity until it&#039;s placed somewhere you can&#039;t control it. I could, for instance, lock comments on these posts and delete everything any of you said (not that I would).

I never said it was an &quot;honour&quot; to have me there looking around. I did say that I suspect that the only reason I was invited was so that I would retract previous statements that I had made. Although the experience just reinforced them.

If you want people to not be critical when pointing out flaws, I advise that you all be a touch less sensitive to criticism.

And you posted this on the wrong post. If comments are closed, it&#039;s because they aren&#039;t wanted any more. Not because I want them in the wrong place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may &#8220;actually need&#8221; publicity. I have no objection to that. I object when publicity is a primary consideration over anything else.</p>
<blockquote cite="DaisyLou"><p>We might find it necessary to censor things as they may be breaking the AUP and could create negative publicity if they were left on view.</p></blockquote>
<p>Congratulations for actually <i>admitting</i> that you censor criticism. Removing negative statements will simply hide the bad publicity until it&#8217;s placed somewhere you can&#8217;t control it. I could, for instance, lock comments on these posts and delete everything any of you said (not that I would).</p>
<p>I never said it was an &#8220;honour&#8221; to have me there looking around. I did say that I suspect that the only reason I was invited was so that I would retract previous statements that I had made. Although the experience just reinforced them.</p>
<p>If you want people to not be critical when pointing out flaws, I advise that you all be a touch less sensitive to criticism.</p>
<p>And you posted this on the wrong post. If comments are closed, it&#8217;s because they aren&#8217;t wanted any more. Not because I want them in the wrong place.</p>
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		<title>By: DaisyLou</title>
		<link>http://kathar.in/2007/07/schome-park-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1358</link>
		<dc:creator>DaisyLou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um hello Katharine. I just wanted to point a few things out (I didn&#039;t get to see all the other comments, so I am sorry if they seem repeated).
1. We actually need publicity if we are going to carry on with our project, we need funding and if we have more publicity the more people will want to fund us.
2. We might find it necessary to censor things as they may be breaking the AUP and could create negative publicity if they were left on view. 
3. I am not being nasty here, yet you act like it was an honour to have you looking around and reviewing our work, it wasn&#039;t neccessarily but we did enjoy talking to you sometimes.
4. If there are flaws you could actually point them out in a nicer way rather than be sarcastic and overly critical.
Thanks,
Daisy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um hello Katharine. I just wanted to point a few things out (I didn&#8217;t get to see all the other comments, so I am sorry if they seem repeated).<br />
1. We actually need publicity if we are going to carry on with our project, we need funding and if we have more publicity the more people will want to fund us.<br />
2. We might find it necessary to censor things as they may be breaking the AUP and could create negative publicity if they were left on view.<br />
3. I am not being nasty here, yet you act like it was an honour to have you looking around and reviewing our work, it wasn&#8217;t neccessarily but we did enjoy talking to you sometimes.<br />
4. If there are flaws you could actually point them out in a nicer way rather than be sarcastic and overly critical.<br />
Thanks,<br />
Daisy</p>
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		<title>By: Decimus</title>
		<link>http://kathar.in/2007/07/schome-park-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1027</link>
		<dc:creator>Decimus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; nothing worse than an island with one or two people on it
It depends on the circumstances - if I want to get on with something, then I don&#039;t want lots of people around (as it&#039;s highly likely that I&#039;ll end up talking to them instead of doing what I was going to do :p)
On the other hand, though, there are cases where you *want* lots of people around to talk to - you may get an idea for something to do or you might just want to chat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; nothing worse than an island with one or two people on it<br />
It depends on the circumstances &#8211; if I want to get on with something, then I don&#8217;t want lots of people around (as it&#8217;s highly likely that I&#8217;ll end up talking to them instead of doing what I was going to do :p)<br />
On the other hand, though, there are cases where you *want* lots of people around to talk to &#8211; you may get an idea for something to do or you might just want to chat.</p>
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		<title>By: Pigment SParker</title>
		<link>http://kathar.in/2007/07/schome-park-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1026</link>
		<dc:creator>Pigment SParker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 08:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like to add that there is also &#039;SHOUT&#039; the Schome Park Arts competition, see forum. 

Additionally the Machinima group encourages ALL Schomers/SParkers to work and to be involved in film making. There is plenty of creative work to do, e.g. making of props, sets and even acting. So, we do not hang about as we are busy :) 

Pigment is always there between 17.00 - 19.00 to teach photography and machinima. 

It would be nice to have more students :) :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like to add that there is also &#8216;SHOUT&#8217; the Schome Park Arts competition, see forum. </p>
<p>Additionally the Machinima group encourages ALL Schomers/SParkers to work and to be involved in film making. There is plenty of creative work to do, e.g. making of props, sets and even acting. So, we do not hang about as we are busy <img src='http://kathar.in/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Pigment is always there between 17.00 &#8211; 19.00 to teach photography and machinima. </p>
<p>It would be nice to have more students <img src='http://kathar.in/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://kathar.in/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: PeterT</title>
		<link>http://kathar.in/2007/07/schome-park-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1025</link>
		<dc:creator>PeterT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 07:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with Hapno that there is little point in Schome Park if it is little more than a hang-out. I also agree that at the moment - with the exception of the machinima work, and some archaeology that will be happening shortly - there is a lack of focussed activity at the moment. However, we are in the summer recess - and posted info stating that we were running at a lower level of activity over the summer on the wiki - so this shouldn&#039;t come as any surprise to you. 

Come September we will be having a recruitment drive - wanting to increase the number of registered users of Schome Park to around 400 (we think that will give us a sufficient core of users to provide the sort of buzz that is necessary for an island - nothing worse than an island with one or two people on it). As the recruitment drive kicks in we will be increasing the level of staffing and of focussed activities. Staff are using the time during the recess to plan activities and prepare resources. 

As for me (PeterT) &quot;wondering off and only popping in once per fortnight&quot; - Schome Park (ie going in-world) is one part of working on the Schome Park Project. The wiki and forum are equally important elements in the project - as discussed in the schome-NAGTY Teen Second Life Pilot Final Report. On any large project it is quite normal for staff to take responsibility for specific aspects of the work. As the director of the project my main jobs are to do with the project&#039;s direction and coordination, ethics and child protection, staffing issues, fund raising, and research. Day to day in-world support is not part of my remit - nor is moderation of the wiki or forum (there are  other staff with responsibility for these aspects of the project).  However, I do think it is important that I keep in touch with what is happening which is why I spend as much time as I do in the forum - and using the wiki and coming in-world when I can.

So - you can expect to see a major increase in activity both in terms of numbers of participants and &#039;organised events&#039; come the end of the summer recess. However, being realistic I don&#039;t expect that I will be spending more time in-world (much as I would like to). 

See http://www.schome.ac.uk/ for more info on Schome and the Schome Park Project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Hapno that there is little point in Schome Park if it is little more than a hang-out. I also agree that at the moment &#8211; with the exception of the machinima work, and some archaeology that will be happening shortly &#8211; there is a lack of focussed activity at the moment. However, we are in the summer recess &#8211; and posted info stating that we were running at a lower level of activity over the summer on the wiki &#8211; so this shouldn&#8217;t come as any surprise to you. </p>
<p>Come September we will be having a recruitment drive &#8211; wanting to increase the number of registered users of Schome Park to around 400 (we think that will give us a sufficient core of users to provide the sort of buzz that is necessary for an island &#8211; nothing worse than an island with one or two people on it). As the recruitment drive kicks in we will be increasing the level of staffing and of focussed activities. Staff are using the time during the recess to plan activities and prepare resources. </p>
<p>As for me (PeterT) &#8220;wondering off and only popping in once per fortnight&#8221; &#8211; Schome Park (ie going in-world) is one part of working on the Schome Park Project. The wiki and forum are equally important elements in the project &#8211; as discussed in the schome-NAGTY Teen Second Life Pilot Final Report. On any large project it is quite normal for staff to take responsibility for specific aspects of the work. As the director of the project my main jobs are to do with the project&#8217;s direction and coordination, ethics and child protection, staffing issues, fund raising, and research. Day to day in-world support is not part of my remit &#8211; nor is moderation of the wiki or forum (there are  other staff with responsibility for these aspects of the project).  However, I do think it is important that I keep in touch with what is happening which is why I spend as much time as I do in the forum &#8211; and using the wiki and coming in-world when I can.</p>
<p>So &#8211; you can expect to see a major increase in activity both in terms of numbers of participants and &#8216;organised events&#8217; come the end of the summer recess. However, being realistic I don&#8217;t expect that I will be spending more time in-world (much as I would like to). </p>
<p>See <a href="http://www.schome.ac.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://www.schome.ac.uk/</a> for more info on Schome and the Schome Park Project.</p>
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		<title>By: Hapno</title>
		<link>http://kathar.in/2007/07/schome-park-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1020</link>
		<dc:creator>Hapno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 21:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>right, i&#039;m stuck in a difficult position here; I love the concept of Schome because, well, I havent had the best of times with the current school systm, and I beleive it flawed.

though, I must admit, we have moved away somewhat from the topics of archology, phyiscs and philosophy, and moved onto more &#039;vague&#039; elements; the A.I. Emporium, Bright SParks.

but, alas, PeterT wonders off and only pops up once a fortnight, until he hides again, looking for funding or more ways to promote Schome.

so, I concur with Faz; there is no reason to promote Schome if it&#039;s going to be little more then a hang-out.


by the by, however, I must thank you for your excellent work on the bots!

Ta de ta

-Hapno</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>right, i&#8217;m stuck in a difficult position here; I love the concept of Schome because, well, I havent had the best of times with the current school systm, and I beleive it flawed.</p>
<p>though, I must admit, we have moved away somewhat from the topics of archology, phyiscs and philosophy, and moved onto more &#8216;vague&#8217; elements; the A.I. Emporium, Bright SParks.</p>
<p>but, alas, PeterT wonders off and only pops up once a fortnight, until he hides again, looking for funding or more ways to promote Schome.</p>
<p>so, I concur with Faz; there is no reason to promote Schome if it&#8217;s going to be little more then a hang-out.</p>
<p>by the by, however, I must thank you for your excellent work on the bots!</p>
<p>Ta de ta</p>
<p>-Hapno</p>
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		<title>By: The voice of your conscience</title>
		<link>http://kathar.in/2007/07/schome-park-again/comment-page-1/#comment-786</link>
		<dc:creator>The voice of your conscience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 00:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Commentless, yet stealing cyberspace.
Each to his own, though.
._.
/me goes to rant elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Commentless, yet stealing cyberspace.<br />
Each to his own, though.<br />
._.<br />
/me goes to rant elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Katharine Berry</title>
		<link>http://kathar.in/2007/07/schome-park-again/comment-page-1/#comment-767</link>
		<dc:creator>Katharine Berry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;PeterT&quot;&gt;Who knows - maybe we could find a way to give you access to Schome Park itself if you wanted to find out what we are really getting up to...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Surely you would just have to add me to the access list, seeing as I&#039;m on the same grid as the sims (if not the people &lt;i&gt;on&lt;/i&gt; the sims... depends how recently it was all set up there.). Although I suppose there&#039;s probably a legal mess involved that says &quot;No.&quot;

As for joining your forums... fine. :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="PeterT"><p>Who knows &#8211; maybe we could find a way to give you access to Schome Park itself if you wanted to find out what we are really getting up to&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Surely you would just have to add me to the access list, seeing as I&#8217;m on the same grid as the sims (if not the people <i>on</i> the sims&#8230; depends how recently it was all set up there.). Although I suppose there&#8217;s probably a legal mess involved that says &#8220;No.&#8221;</p>
<p>As for joining your forums&#8230; fine. :p</p>
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